Squabbling Saints
Welcome to Squabbling Saints! We want to hash out the big stuff—faith, culture, the news, and those tricky theological questions. Honest conversations, a little back-and-forth, and a lot of fun as we dig into what it means to follow Jesus in today’s world.
Episodes
Sep 8, 2025
Sep 8, 2025
1 hr 2 min
In this episode of Squabbling Saints, Justine and Chris dive into a lively discussion about authenticity, faith, and the role of AI in our daily lives. From debates over the best Caesar salad dressing to the deeper questions of spiritual transformation, the hosts explore how technology like ChatGPT is changing the way we communicate, research, and even approach faith. They reflect on the importance of being real—at home, in church, and with God—and share personal stories about vulnerability, leadership, and the journey toward a transformed heart. Whether you’re here for the laughs, the honest conversation, or the spiritual insights, this episode has something for everyone.
00:00 – Opening banter: Caesar salad obsessions and the quest for the perfect coasters
06:00 – Amazon, Temu, and the ethics of online shopping
12:00 – ChatGPT and AI: How the hosts use it for writing, research, and daily life
20:00 – The pros and cons of AI in education, work, and ministry
28:00 – Authenticity in faith: Are we living what we preach?
35:00 – The dangers of hypocrisy and the call to real transformation
42:00 – Vulnerability, hard hearts, and the analogy of calluses and root canals
50:00 – How to pursue a transformed heart: practical steps and spiritual encouragement
58:00 – The importance of waiting on God and daily surrender
1:05:00 – Final thoughts: Bringing heaven to earth, living authentically, and a closing prayer
Aug 25, 2025
Aug 25, 2025
1 hr 1 min
In this episode, the hosts reflect on the fleeting nature of summer, shared experiences, and the challenges of transitioning into the busier fall season. They discuss the dynamics of worship at a recent youth camp, the importance of genuine spiritual experiences, and the prudent use of spiritual 'power tools.' They also touch upon the balance between emotional expressions and genuine encounters in worship, the value of being intentional in busy seasons, and the upcoming shift into fall routines. The conversation includes personal anecdotes, reflections on spiritual growth, and a lighthearted exchange about giving up coffee.
00:00 Reflecting on a Busy Summer
00:37 Vacation Plans and Bucket Lists
01:39 Family Time and Summer Activities
04:20 Transitioning to Fall
07:32 Lessons from Youth Camp
10:36 The Power of Worship
19:01 Emotional Highs and Spiritual Growth
31:15 Struggles in Prayer and Journaling
31:46 Seasons of Weeping and God's Presence
32:03 Indicators of Spiritual Life
32:36 Honesty in Worship and Faith
33:27 Living as a Redeemed Child of God
34:56 Faith in Action: Beyond Belief
38:33 Power Tools and Spiritual Gifts
40:37 Misuse of Spiritual Gifts
43:56 Personal Experiences with the Holy Spirit
56:58 Transitioning Between Seasons
01:00:05 Conclusion and Call to Action
Aug 11, 2025
Aug 11, 2025
1 hr 9 min
In this episode, the hosts discuss the impact of media and entertainment on their spiritual lives, emphasizing the importance of discerning what they consume. They share personal stories about the influence of movies, music, and books, with specific references to popular franchises like Harry Potter, Star Wars, and various TV shows. They reflect on how these choices can either draw them closer to or pull them away from their relationship with Jesus. The conversation highlights the necessity of being mindful and intentional about media consumption, and the potential need for 'spiritual detoxes,' where they focus on consuming Christian content. They advocate for a balance between enjoying entertainment and maintaining spiritual health, urging listeners to self-reflect on their media habits in the light of their faith.
00:00 Introduction and Technical Difficulties
00:14 Meet the Producer
01:07 Entertainment and Its Impact
02:23 Summer of Movies Plan
04:40 Reading Habits and Preferences
07:43 Influence of Media on Behaviour
24:29 Music and Its Effects
33:37 Nostalgic Christian Music
34:25 Mindless Action Movies and Horror Avoidance
35:27 Workout Routines and Spiritual Practices
37:05 Controversial Media: Harry Potter Discussion
40:36 Evaluating Media Consumption
49:12 Favourite Movies and Comfort Shows
01:00:53 Spiritual Reflection on Media Choices
01:06:06 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Jul 28, 2025
Jul 28, 2025
1 hr 8 min
In this episode, the hosts discuss the complexities and rewards of youth ministry with guest Ashley Livingston, who has been working with the Eastern Ontario District of Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada for 12 years. The conversation delves into the dynamic between older and younger generations, with an emphasis on the importance of authenticity, relationship-building, and intentionality in engaging youth. They explore the evolving landscape of youth culture, from changing language trends to the critical need for spiritual encounters. Tips for effectively ministering to youth, the role of social media, and the critical importance of supporting youth pastors are also covered. Practical advice is given for churches and individuals aiming to make youth a priority, and the episode highlights the constant need for adapting and learning in ministry.
00:00 Introduction: The Power of Influence
00:49 Nostalgia and Playground Memories
04:56 Meet Ashley Livingston
06:12 Ashley’s Journey to Youth Ministry
23:09 Youth Ministry Challenges and Insights
33:10 The Challenge of Discipline in Modern Life
34:04 Hiring the Next Generation: What to Look For
37:31 Generational Differences in Work Ethic and Boundaries
42:40 The Importance of Youth Ministry in Churches
49:34 Engaging with Youth: Practical Tips for Churches and Parents
56:19 The Role of Authenticity and Social Media
01:00:57 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement
Jul 14, 2025
Jul 14, 2025
1 hr 2 min
This episode dives into the significance of prayer, starting with a humorous personal story about a cold trip to a theme park that doubles as a backdrop for discussing the emotional terrain of life. The hosts explain the various barriers people face when it comes to praying, such as pride, lack of knowledge, perceived lack of time, and feelings of unworthiness. They break down Jesus' structure for prayer, commonly known as The Lord's Prayer, and introduce the PRAY acrostic (Praise, Repent, Ask, Yield) as a simple method to start a prayer life. The episode encourages listeners to communicate openly with God and highlights the importance of setting aside intentional time for prayer. Tips for teaching children to pray and the benefits of praying scripture are also covered.
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene
00:10 The Weather Surprise at Wonderland
01:09 Chaperoning Grade Eight Girls
03:39 The Rollercoaster Experience
09:09 Discussing Prayer and Its Importance
30:02 Trusting in God's Daily Provision
31:45 The Importance of Forgiveness
35:15 Daily Spiritual Practices
45:35 Teaching Children to Pray
48:14 The PRAY Method for Structured Prayer
58:01 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement
Jun 30, 2025
Jun 30, 2025
1 hr 8 min
In this episode of the Squabbling Saints podcast, Justine and Chris are joined by Dr. Danielle Jeffery, a psychotherapist, to discuss the complexities of setting boundaries, people-pleasing, and ensuring healthy relationships within the church and personal life. They explore the difficulties of balancing personal boundaries with the biblical call to be the hands and feet of Jesus, especially when past traumas and personal anxieties play a role. The conversation also touches on recognizing emotional triggers, managing professional boundaries, and the importance of self-awareness and attunement in relationships. Tune in for practical advice and spiritual insights into fostering healthier, more balanced interactions in various aspects of life.
00:00 Stuck on a Song: The Watermelon Sugar Dilemma
00:38 Kids and Music: Navigating Explicit Lyrics
02:30 The Role of Music in Spiritual Seasons
04:09 Maturing in Faith: Lessons from the New Testament
06:35 Introducing Dr. Danielle Jeffrey: Boundaries in Relationships
07:35 The Importance of Setting Boundaries
10:01 Balancing Professional and Personal Boundaries
29:16 Cultural Differences in Boundaries
33:37 The Sacrifices of Ministry
33:54 Balancing Ministry and Family
34:21 The Concept of Attunement
35:14 Setting Boundaries in Ministry
36:34 The Weight of People Pleasing
37:37 Enabling vs. Empowering
38:13 Navigating Family Dynamics
39:33 The Importance of Self-Awareness
48:33 Friendship Boundaries
58:56 Work-Life Balance Challenges
01:06:34 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
Jun 23, 2025
Jun 23, 2025
1 hr 5 min
This episode dives into the often overlooked topic of treating our bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit within the Christian faith. The hosts discuss their personal journeys with food and fitness, sharing insights on the benefits of physical discipline and healthy eating habits. They explore how maintaining one's physical health is not just about appearance but honours God and supports spiritual well-being. Alongside relevant scriptures, they touch on the dangers of food idolatry, the importance of balanced eating, and practical tips for integrating healthier habits into daily life.
00:00 Candy Cravings and Baking Temptations
01:19 Nostalgic Treats and Family Memories
04:08 Pretzel Preferences and Local Delicacies
06:23 Body Image and Health in Christian Perspective
08:43 Personal Health Journeys and Discipline
22:22 Balancing Food and Faith
31:09 Food as a Reward: Cultural Perspectives
32:18 The Sin of Gluttony
33:59 The Body as a Temple: Biblical Insights
34:45 Gnosticism and the Early Church
37:52 Practical Health Tips and Spiritual Discipline
43:07 The Impact of Sugar and Healthy Eating
47:06 The Importance of Physical Exercise
56:47 Parental Influence and Spiritual Leadership
01:03:37 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement
Jun 16, 2025
Jun 16, 2025
1 hr 6 min
In this episode, the hosts discuss the generational challenges faced by millennials and Gen Z in the church. They explore the transition from strict, uncommunicative upbringing methods to a more compassionate, explanatory, and intentional parenting style. The conversation delves into past church practices, the impact of internet and information overload, cultural shifts towards deconstruction, and the importance of authenticity and intentional relationships. They call for a reevaluation of how faith is taught and lived, emphasizing the importance of apologizing to children and ensuring that faith is a guide through vulnerable, real-life experiences. The hosts invite open dialogue and offer support for those hurt by the church or struggling with their faith.
00:00 Nostalgic Beginnings: Favourite Childhood Movies
02:09 Disney Channel Memories and Growing Up
02:42 Life in an RV and Disney Channel Shows
05:26 Millennial TV Shows and Christian Upbringing
14:56 The Impact of Internet and Information Overload
24:10 The Church's Struggle with Millennial Disillusionment
28:14 Aligning with God's Will
29:00 Generational Values in the Church
29:45 Consumer Christianity and Authenticity
31:03 Belief vs. Discipleship
32:52 Deconstruction and Its Challenges
39:36 The Importance of Apology in Faith
58:07 Teaching Children About Faith
01:04:07 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement
Jun 10, 2025
Jun 10, 2025
1 hr 1 min
In this episode, the hosts discuss the pervasive culture of busyness that dominates modern life, especially in North America. They reflect on how different months seem continuously filled with activities, leaving little room for rest and contemplation. The conversation transitions to the biblical perspective on rest, emphasizing how living a hurried life contradicts the peaceful life God intends for Christians. They delve into the detrimental effects of hurry on relationships, spiritual health, and mental well-being. Practical advice is offered on how to slow down, prioritize, and regain balance in life, including examining and adjusting one's schedule, prioritizing spiritual disciplines, and finding genuine rest in God. Additionally, the discussion touches upon the importance of maintaining a healthy involvement in church activities without overcommitting and the significance of teaching children the value of rest and spiritual devotion. The hosts recommend key books such as 'The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry' by John Mark Comer and 'Emotionally Healthy Leader' by Peter Scazzero to further one's understanding and practice of intentional, unhurried living.
00:00 Introduction: The Busy Life
02:08 The Irony of Hurry
02:29 Cultural Pressures and Christian Life
04:55 Balancing Family, Work, and Faith
05:31 The Importance of Rest and Devotion
06:57 Biblical Lessons on Hurry
10:20 The Trap of Hustle Culture
19:04 Practical Steps to Slow Down
31:09 Evaluating Priorities and Simplifying Life
31:56 The Importance of Scheduling and Discipline
32:55 Handling Life's Challenges with Discipline
34:07 The Impact of Technology on Our Lives
37:30 Balancing Church and Personal Life
39:00 The Importance of Family and Church Commitment
42:41 The Need for Balance and Slowing Down
52:24 Practical Steps to Create Margin in Life
58:12 Recommended Resources for a Balanced Life
Jun 2, 2025
Jun 2, 2025
1 hr 2 min
In this episode, the hosts discuss the daily dilemma of choosing between iced and hot coffee, especially when dealing with fluctuating temperatures. They explore the health implications of cold beverages and the habitual consumption of coffee. The conversation transitions to the critical topic of judgment within the Christian community. They tackle the common misinterpretation of 'judge not lest you be judged,' emphasizing accountability, gentle restoration, and the importance of addressing unrepentant sin within the church. The hosts also delve into the cultural influences that lead to misconceptions and the need for maturity in handling judgment and restoration. Additionally, they highlight the dangers of hypocrisy, gossip, and the proper approach to prayerful correction motivated by love and mercy.
00:00 Morning Coffee Dilemma
00:30 Health Impacts of Iced Drinks
01:05 Coffee Consumption Habits
04:52 Pharmaceutical Conspiracies
13:57 Judging Others: A Biblical Perspective
30:03 Judgment and Community Accountability
30:56 Christian Conduct and Judgment
31:57 The Role of the Church in Judgment
33:24 Restoration and Mercy
35:37 Living by God's Standards
37:51 The Importance of Mature Believers
40:24 Final Thoughts on Judgment and Mercy
01:00:32 Closing Remarks and Call to Action




